Daniel Emanuelson @DanEmanuelson
Love hanging out, being outside, playing and watching sports! Wisconsin born and bred, love the Brewers, bucks, and packers!! Joined May 2012-
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@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 Thanks!
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 Thank you! I'll save this information for next time. This is exactly the point I was trying to make, where obviously Covid-19 causes blood clots at a far greater rate than the vaccine. The issue I had was that the graphic grossly exaggerated the percentage.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 It would be very unlikely for unreported cases to follow the trend since none required hospitalization (or else they would be reported). It is also unlikely that none of the unreported cases did not have a blood clot. Why is this so hard for you?
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 Alright I'll tell you numbers. Since 2 of every 3 cases are unreported, the likelihood of a blood clot due to Covid-19 is somewhere between 5.5% - 16.5%. If all unreported cases did not clot, then 5.5%. If unreported cases followed the trend, then 16.5%.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 I'm 30 and in relatively good health. I'm not downplaying the seriousness of covid. I'm simply stating that we should strive to be as accurate as possible, and avoid fear mongering.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 I've had Covid-19 and recovered months ago. I did not require hospitalization. I had one day where I had a fever, but next day was fine. Your ICU Doctor friend is the worst person to ask about this as they only see the worst of the worst. Anecdotal data at its finest.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 Here it is! Again, I'm not saying that covid doesn't cause blood clots... just not 1 in 7 cases. 2 of 3 cases are unreported and do not require hospitalization "In the U.S., the number of COVID-19 cases is likely 3 times that of reported cases." webmd.com/lung/news/2021…
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 Everyone should call out misinformation or inaccurate data when you see it. We should strive to be as accurate as possible at all times. This should be an inarguable point, which is why I look forward to seeing your response 🤣
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 I agree with your point, and believe that the percentages mentioned for vaccination, birth control, and smoking are accurate (because we have full data sets). The issue with the graphic is placing Covid-19 percentage next to these items suggesting it is a fact 1 in 7 has clots.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 As a society we need to get away from "The ends justify the means" sort of thinking, because when you misrepresent data (or blatantly lie) and are found out, it decreases trust even further. Let facts speak for themselves. Covid-19 is horrible without misrepresenting data.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 It is part of the point... the graphic is depicting the risk of clotting from the vaccine vs other causes. The graphic is accurate except for the covid information, which is why I singled that part out. Why are you trolling? The overall message is correct, but details matter.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 You're missing my point. I'm stating 1 in 7 chance is absurd due to cases being underreported. Maybe it's 1 in 10, or 1 in 100... either way it causes blood clots and you should get the vaccine. That being said, stop force feeding inaccurate data and calling it fact.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 webmd.com/lung/news/2021… If cases are severely undercounted, how can you accurately state that 1 in 7 people will have a blood clot with covid? Answer that and I'll continue, thanks.
@blair_parker @MrsFranqueezy @thepstall @cnnbrk @josefharper00 It's not about feelings, it's literally a data set missing a huge amount of data. Have you not had to present a graph in the real world? This would not be acceptable in real businesses.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 And most importantly, the missing data is from people who were asymptomatic or did not require hospilitization, which means that it would be less likely for blood clot to occur. This isn't difficult to understand.
@blair_parker @thepstall @MrsFranqueezy @cnnbrk @josefharper00 People were upset that CNN posted this tweet without clarifying that it was 6 blood clots our of 7 million doses. I have the exact same argument with a graphic stating that 1/7 people who have covid have blood clots, when they have an extremely limited amount of data.
@blair_parker @MrsFranqueezy @thepstall @cnnbrk @josefharper00 Again, I don't know the real number and would rather not guess. I'm not a scientist and cannot perform the research. That does not mean that I cannot critically assess someone's research and state that (at minimum) half the cases are unreported, so 16.5% is absurd.
@blair_parker @MrsFranqueezy @thepstall @cnnbrk @josefharper00 Covid-19 is bad enough without misrepresenting the data to make it look worse. I understand that some people doing this may think it's to show the importance of the vaccine, but the lies upon endless lies are deteriorating the trust people place in historically trustworthy orgs
@blair_parker @MrsFranqueezy @thepstall @cnnbrk @josefharper00 Fair enough, I agree with your point that the vaccine is far safer than Covid-19. That being said, the graphic misrepresents the data for covid by stating approximately 1 in 7 people who have covid have blood clots. That's absurd, and should be called out, which I did.
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