What becomes possible when an auditor can test thousands of items without weeks of manual work?
Schellman’s Danny Manimbo sees an opportunity to rethink what an audit can deliver.
In this conversation with Kacee Johnson, he explores broader testing, continuous auditing, and whether AI could move the profession closer to what he describes as “absolute assurance.”
More capacity. Greater coverage. New possibilities for client value.
Hear Danny’s perspective on The Price of Intelligence, the latest AI Native Accounting® Podcast episode.
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Your clients are using AI. Their questions are changing.
How do we address bias? Manage hallucinations? Demonstrate responsible use?
Schellman’s Danny Manimbo explains how the firm turned those emerging needs into new assurance services—and new opportunities for growth.
For firms, recognizing the next client problem can be just as valuable as improving an existing workflow.
Watch Danny’s conversation with Kacee Johnson on the AI Native Accounting® Podcast from the AI Native Accounting Foundation.
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If AI helps your firm deliver work faster, should you lower the fee?
It’s a question Kacee Johnson explores in The Price of Intelligence on the AI Native Accounting® Podcast.
Fieldguide’s Jin Chang shares what he’s hearing from firm leaders: efficiency and profitability are improving, but AI brings investment and learning costs, too.
Many are holding pricing steady while focusing on a better question: how can we deliver more value for the same fee?
More capacity gives firms options. Understanding the economics helps them decide what comes next.
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AI is creating new client needs. Schellman moved early to meet them.
Danny Manimbo shares how the firm built its AI assurance services and why they’re now its fastest-growing offerings.
As businesses adopt AI, they need help understanding risks, demonstrating responsible use, and building trust. That creates room for firms to expand what they deliver.
Hear Danny’s perspective on the AI Native Accounting® Podcast with host Kacee Johnson.
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AI gives accountants time back. What should that mean for their fees?
In the latest episode of the AI Native Accounting podcast, Fieldguide’s Jin Chang and Schellman’s Danny Manimbo join Kacee Johnson to explore the Price of Intelligence.
Less manual work creates room for more: deeper insights, stronger assurance, and more time helping clients make better decisions. The opportunity is to build services (and pricing) that reflect those outcomes.
Recorded live at Fieldguide’s Catalyst Conference.
Watch the trailer below. Full episode links in comments
Firms aren't vibe-coding their tax prep software. But plenty are building one-off tools on top of their general ledger, and underestimating what that actually requires.
Danny Werfel points out what those homegrown builds skip: the maintenance, and the security work vendors go through to prevent data leakage between clients. "In tax, the stakes are much higher."
It's part of why he built an AI risk framework for tax authorities and preparers, a set of questions vendors should be able to answer. If they can't, or they answer poorly, that's the signal: "they weren't in it to optimize for reliability and accuracy."
Full episode with Danny Werfel, plus a link to his AI Risk Framework, in comments.
What should never be automated at the IRS?
Danny Werfel's answer is immediate: "I'm sorry, Watson, you're not getting the chair."
He wants AI-powered auditors: smarter, faster, moving through cases quicker. What he doesn't want is AI making the call. "It should be an IRS employee that is making the final decisions on audit selection, on the assessment of what the balance due is, the audit outcomes."
Augmentation, not replacement, even at the highest-stakes point in the system.
Full episode with Danny Werfel, the 50th Commissioner of the IRS, in comments.
AI risk in tax isn't only about the tools firms deploy. It's also about who gets exploited when they don't understand the tools already out there.
Danny Werfel: "There's more AI scams out there that are defrauding your clients, defrauding your taxpayers." Taxation, he argues, is different from most domains "a legal requirement... a civic duty... a patriotic duty" and one already vulnerable to non-compliance, intentional and not. AI can accelerate that.
His ask to the profession: put on the community hat, not just the one-company hat, and help taxpayers understand the risk before they're the ones exposed to it.
Full episode in comments.
"We can't just walk out of the room and say, 'You got this, Watson. You're all set.'"
Danny Werfel's warning to firms and tax authorities: don't let efficiency gains push the human out of the decision chair.
He's already seeing the pattern play out. Firms implement an agent on top of tax prep, it saves preparers four hours a day - and leadership either cuts headcount or just piles more compliance work onto the people who are left. Either way, oversight erodes.
The efficiency is real. The mistake is treating it as a reason to remove the human, rather than a reason to reinvest in judgment.
Full episode with Danny Werfel in comments.
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